I think we are on the same page – the current tax code has to go, with the overreaching and thuggish IRS being abolished with it. While I’m not totally opposed to a Fair Tax-like scheme, I’m just worried about abuse of it by corrupt politicians, as has been the case with Europe’s VAT. I’m primarily in support of a streamlined income tax or a consumption tax, not both.

The problem will ultimately be finding politicians who will are willing to get rid of a corrupt tax system that rewards the Corporate-Government cozy relationships at the expense of the American taxpayer.

Your ideas are good, but the Cain plan or anybody else’s plan that gives the Federal Government another swipe at my money (e.g. VAT, national sales tax) is nuts.

In addition to your ideas, I would immediately implement a flat tax (3-tiered) and scrap the current tax code. With that I would dismantle the IRS and have a private contractors bid to collect the tax in the new system. No exemptions for anyone. End religious and philanthropic foundation abuse of tax exempt status. Reform campaign finance laws and push to end “corporations are people” BS. I would cut the hell out of defense and initiate entitlement reform. Then I would eliminate all Federal Government unions so we can start thinning out the Federal payroll. At that point, we could start swinging the big axe to eliminate and/or consolidate Federal Agencies/Dept. to an affordable level.

Unfortunately, until America ends this Oligarch/Corporatist controlled Federal government, nothing will change.

You can call Cain’s plan whatever you want but the fact remains that it allows for yet another revenue stream for big government progressives to exploit. Tax swap plans are a classic government SCAM. Everything looks good the first couple of years but as soon as the dust settles or a fake “crisis” occurs, politicians will jack up the rates. Only the most naive would fall for such a scam and actually believe that 9-9-9 would remain 9-9-9. It’s already changing to 9-0-9 if you happen to live is the right spot.

The idea that prices would fall because the tax is no longer hidden is absurd. Prices are not going to drop. Prices should have fallen off dramatically over the past couple of years but the Federal Reserve made sure that didn’t happen. On the contrary, they forced prices up by inflating the money supply. The FED loves inflation and hates deflation. They make damn sure prices don’t fall.

Anyway, Cain is a nice enough guy and I feel bad that he is the victim of a smear campaign. However, his 9-9-9 plan is misguided and like Al, I’m extremely disappointed that so called Tea Party members would support a new revenue stream and would fall for the old tax swap scam. Taxed Enough Already is truly becoming Tax Everything Always . If that is the direction of the Tea Party, count me out.

my plan below:

First of all, we have to understand that we are going broke. My solution: we got to recall all our military from all foreign lands (and I mean all) and cut it by a third to a half and the remaining troops main mission should be guarding the borders as they are Constitutionally demanded too. Now that would save a heck of a lot of money. Let the rest of the world take care of their own business; we can no longer be the police force of the world. Domestically, I would eliminate the Income tax and IRS and go to a National Sales Tax model. Less entities to collect from so that will further reduce the need for government workers saving more money. Also, before we even had income tax, we got most of our money from tariffs and other fees. Repeal NAFTA/GATT and bring the tariffs back. Short term, things will cost more. Long term, the jobs will return (they have too if companies want to sell their goods to us at a reasonable cost to them). NAFTA/GATT just gave them incentives to leave. That’s my take; want to hear yours.

As far as Cain goes, I don’t trust anyone with ties to the Federal Reserve, no matter how hard he now tries to dismiss it as a negligible fact. Also, what true conservative would propose a VAT tax, accompanied with a Federal personal income tax. The fact is the Corporate tax proposed would also be passed along to the consumer. Then add that to a state and local sales taxes, state income tax, and State and Federal excise taxes. Plus the fact that all governments always break promises of not raising in the future newly implemented taxes. The US tax system needs to be scrapped, but it’s replacement needs to be in the form of a consumption-based or income-based tax, not both.

The funniest thing about Tea party support for Herman Cain is the fact that the Tea Party was found on the premise of “TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY” -

YET THE TEA PARTY NOW SUPPORTS A PLAN(GIMMICK) THAT IMPOSES AN ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE STREAM THAT WILL BE USED AS A WEAPON AGAINST AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.

The people/groups intentionally called out by me are big-government statist, corrupt politicians, corporate lobbyists, corrupt lobbyists hiding behind and benefiting from non-profit status, corporate America, illegal aliens, haters of liberty and freedom, defenders of Keynesian economics, defenders of central planning, defenders of central banking, defenders of fractional reserve baking, defenders of large banking institution, defenders of failed European Socialism, Communist/Marxists/Socialist/Progressives, name-callers who can’t advance an argument based on facts, race-baiters, hate-baiters, defenders of the premise that “the science is settled, supporters and defenders of George Soros, defenders/supporters/members of the mainstream media propagandists, proponents of world government, supporters of the U.N., advocates of Presidential Executive Orders to bypass Congress, advocates of social justice, economic justice, environmental justice, etc…,, supporters and members of public unions. I can probably come up with another 20 or so, but I hopefully have made my point.

I welcome your reply.